/ John Wesley Ramsey (1850/60- before 1890?
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/ Daniel Pressely Ramsey (1895-1979)
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| | / Daniel Ramsey (bc 1755 NC - 1810 Person NC)
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| | / William Ramsey (1778 Person NC-1852 Person NC)
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| | | \ Francis Townsend
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| | / Daniel Ramsey (1809/15 Person NC - 1873 Macon, NC)
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| | | | / Edmond Jones (1740 Mecklenburg VA-1782 Caswell NC)
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| | | \ Nancy Jones (1785 NC - 1835 NC)
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| | | | / William Pettypool (bc 1660 England-dc 1726 Prince George VA)
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| | | | / Seth Pettypool (1703 Prince George VA- 1773 Halifax VA)
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| | | | / John Pettypool (1725 Prince Georga VA- 1803 Granville NC)
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| | | \ Sarah Pettypool (1752 Halifax VA)
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| | | \ Sarah Stanford (1728 VA
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| \ Delia Roseanne Ramsey (1861 Burke NC-1917 Gaston NC)
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| | / George Phillip Hoffman 1713 Palantine Germany-1794 Catawba NC)
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| | / Samuel Huffman (1747 Palantine Germany-1810 Burke NC) [McDowell's forces Kings Mountain 1780]
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| | | \ Catherine Rein (1717 Palantine Germany-1787 Catawba NC)
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| | / Frederick H Huffman (1784 Burke NC-1884 Jackson NC)
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| | | \ Barabra Moser (1755 Catawba NC- 1822 Burke NC)
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| \ Mary Huffman (1823 NC -
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| \ Francis Warlick (1794 NC-da 1870 Jackson NC)
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Clyde T Ramsey (1921-
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| / Ransom Williams (1790 NC-
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| / Ransom H Williams (1834 Burke NC-1913 Lincoln NC) [Pvt, Co. G 58th NC]
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| / Thomas Augustus Smith (1873-1950) grave (see below)
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| | | / Jorg Schmidt (1755 Germany-1825 Burke NC)
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| | | / Henry "Dutch Henry" Smith (1770 PA-1848 Caldwell NC) this and this
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| | | | | / Johann George Loesch (1699 Hessen Germany - 1790 Northampton PA)
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| | | | \ Barabara Loesch (1744 Berks PA-1827 Cabarrus NC)
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| | | | \ Anna Christina Wallborn (1700 Bayern Germany-1782 Northampton PA)
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| | \ Jemima Melinda Smith (bc 1816 Burke NC-1875) this
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| | | / Johann Adam Koch (1735 Germany
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| | \ Christina Koch (Cook) (1775 Lincoln NC- ) this
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| | \ Anna Catarina Duckner (bc 1735
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\ Mary Fannie Smith (1896-
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| / Johnann Dietrich Beam (Geneva Switzerland-1822 NC)
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| / John Beam (1797 Lincoln NC-1870 Lincoln NC)
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| | | / Michael Hoyle (1732 Deggendorf Germany-1792 Lincoln NC)
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| | \ Mary Hoyle (1767 NC-1847 Lincoln NC)
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| | | / Johannes Philipp Dellinger (1706 Karlsruhe Baden Germany-1783 Lincoln NC)
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| | \ Margaret Dellinger (1745 Karlsruhe Baden Germany-1827 Lincoln NC)
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| | \ Anna Maria Brandstatter (1705 Karlshure Baden Germany-1748 Karlsruhe Baden Germany)
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| / John F. Beam (1833 Gaston NC - 1903) [Private Co. G 57th NC]
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| | | / Jacob Carpenter (Zimmerman) (1734 PA-1807 Lincoln NC)
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| | | / Jacob Esquire Carpenter (1778 Lincoln NC-1821 Gaston NC)
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| | | | | / Johann Dietrich Ramsour (1690-1783)
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| | | | \ Catherine Ramsour (1742 Berks PA-1819 Lincoln NC)
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| | \ Mary M. Carpenter (1801 NC-1868 Lincoln NC)
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| | | / Michael Quickel (1747 Lancater PA-1818 Lincoln NC)
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| | \ Catherine Quickel (1780-1830)
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\ Elirah Laura Catherine Beam (1875 - 1943)
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| / Absalom Taylor (1790 NC-1856 AL)
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| / John Taylor ( - 1840)
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| | | / John Crouse (1765 Cumberland PA-1817 MO)
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| | \ Catherine Crouse (1792 -1835)
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| | | / Hans Jacob Mauney, Sr (1691 Altweiler,Bas-Rhin (now France)- 1765 Duram Twp. Bucks PA).
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| | | / Hans Jacob Mauney, Jr (1717 Altweiler, Ras-Rhin, Alsace France- 1792 Lincoln NC)
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| | | | \ Anna Maria Werly (1696 France-Westmorland PA)
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| | | / Johann Valentine Mauney (1740 Butten, Ras-Rhin, Alsace France- 1805 Lincoln NC)
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| | | | \ Catherine Ecker (1720 Ratzweiler Germany - 1776 NC)
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| | \ Sarah Mauney (1765 Lincoln NC-1835 Lincoln NC)
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| | \ Catharina Kiser (1739 PA - 1806 Lincoln NC)
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\ Frances E. Taylor (1840-1885)
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| / Stephen Homesly (1778 England? -1859 Cherryhill NC)
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\ Elirah Lena Homesly (1813-1867)
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| / Morris Roberts (1664 Wales-1724
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| / Morris Roberts II (1712 VA-1782 Chesterfield VA)
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| | | / Joshua Step (1650 VA-1695)
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| | \ Elizabeth Step
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| / Morris Roberts, III (1732 Henrico VA - 1828 Rutherford NC)
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| | | / Halcot Pride (1680 Surry VA-1721 Henrico VA)
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| | \ Jane Pride (1715 VA-1736 Henrico VA0
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| / Joshua Roberts (1760 Chesterfield VA - 1844 Lincoln NC) [Pvt Rev Soldier NC]
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| | | / John Martin 1680
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| | \ Unity Martin (1735 Henrico VA-1770 Chesterfield VA)
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| | \ Mary Woolrdidge (1690
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\ Esther Roberts (1788-1874)
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| / Moses Moore( -1791)this, note Loyalist Capt., in Col. Cruger's
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\ Barbara Esther Moore (or Hester) (1763 NC-1838 NC)
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\ Hester Winston
This says:
U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946
Clyde T Ramsey
Birth Year: 1921
Race: White, Citizen (White)
Nativity State or Country: North Carolina
State of Residence: North Carolina
County or City: Catawba
Enlistment Date: 16 Oct 1942
Enlistment State: South Carolina
Enlistment City: Camp Croft
Branch: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA
Branch Code: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA
Grade: Private
Grade Code: Private
Term of Enlistment: Enlistment for the duration of the War or other
emergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President or
otherwise according to law
Component: Selectees (Enlisted Men)
Source: Civil Life
Education: 4 years of high school
Civil Occupation: Farm hands, general farms
Marital Status: Married
Height: 70
Weight: 122
This
"Descendant List of Johann Martin [Kolter] COULTER Sr. - 30 May 2007"
Says:
. . . . . . 7-Louella CLINE (13 Jan 1899-1 Mar 1995)
. . . . . . +Clyde Solomon RUDISILL (10 Jun 1896-30 Aug 1971)
. . . . . . . 8-Infant of Clyde & Louella RUDISILL (aft 1916-)
. . . . . . . 8-Wilma RUDISILL (26 Mar 1918-)
. . . . . . . +_____ CLONTZ (-)
. . . . . . . . 9-Thomas Leroy CLONTZ (26 Oct 1938-19 Oct 1990)
. . . . . . . +Unk. spouse (of Wilma Rudisill) CLONTZ (bef 1920-)
. . . . . . . . 9-Thomas Leroy CLONTZ (26 Oct 1938-19 Oct 1990)
. . . . . . . +Clyde RAMSEY (9 Apr 1920-)
. . . . . . . . 9-Clydette RAMSEY (11 Feb 1943-)
. . . . . . . . 9-George Presley RAMSEY (18 Apr 1946-)
. . . . . . . . 9-Clyde Douglas RAMSEY (14 Apr 1952-)
. . . . . . . . 9-Julia Beth RAMSEY (28 Sep 1957-)
. . . . . . . 8-Henry Ray RUDISILL (19 Apr 1920-)
United States Census, 1930
Name: Clyde F Ramsey
Event Date: 1930
Event Place: North Brook, Lincoln, North Carolina
Gender: Male
Age: 9
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Birthplace: North Carolina
Estimated Birth Year: 1921
Immigration Year:
Son
Father's Birthplace: North Carolina
Mother's Birthplace: North Carolina
Enumeration District Number: 0021
Parent Pressly Ramsey M 34
Parent Fanny Ramsey F 33
Willie M Ramsey F 11
Clyde F Ramsey M 9
World War I Draft Registration Card
June 5 1918
Pressly Ramsey age 21 <------------------------------------
RD 3 Cherryville NC
DOB Feb 21 1897
Born: Burke NC USA
Native of the United Sates
Father's Brithplace: Burke County NC
Name of Employer: Ben Dellinger
PLace of Emplyment: Northbrook Township NC
Nearest Relative Fannie Ramsey (wife)
Address of nearest Relative: RD3 Cherryville NC
Medium Height Slender
Eyes: Blue Hair: Sandy
| 1930 North Brook Lincoln County North Carolina Census |
[indexed as Ranney NOT Ramsey]
Ramsey Pressly 34 NC NC NC farmer
Fanny 33 NC NC NC
Willie M 11 NC NC NC
Clyde T 9 NC NC NC
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| 1920 North Brook Lincoln County North Carolina Census |
Presley Ramsey 22 NC NC NC farming Fannie Ramsey 23 NC NC NC Willie Mae Ramsey 1 1/12 NC NC NC dau |
| 1910 Bean Lincoln County North Carolina Census |
Delie R Ramsey 47 NC NC NC farmer [does not say widowed or divorced]
Daniel P Ramsey 15 NC NC NC
Mamie L Ramsey 9 NC NC NC dau [BUT 1900 says mother is a widow, so who is Mamie's father?]
Lee Ramsey 25 NC NC NC hired man [adjacent in home of Daniel Parker]
Buried: BETHLEHEM METHODIST CEMETERY Lincoln County, NC <----
Bessie S. Ramsey 11 May 1895 - 16 Nov 1985
M. Lee Ramsey 25 Dec 1882 - 2 Dec 1932
Marriage: M.L. Ramsey <---
Birth Date: 1885
Age: 28
Spouse's Name: Bessie Sisk
Spouse's Birth Date: 1895
Spouse's Age: 18
Event Date: 06 Dec 1913
Event Place: Gastonia Township, Gaston, North Carolina
Father's Name: John W. Ramsey
Mother's Name: Rose Ramsey
Spouse's Father's Name: T.J. Sisk
Spouse's Mother's Name: Sarah Sisk
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| 1900 North Brook Lincoln County North Carolina Census |
Roseanna Ramsey 38 NC NC NC widow [b 1861]
[5 children 5 surving]
Lee Ramsey 14 NC NC NC m
Candice Ramsey 12 NC NC NC
May Ramsey 9 NC NC NC
Daniel Ramsey 5 NC NC NC <------
Roseanna Ramsey 3 niece in law -- implies the daughter of husband's brother
[There is a Rosa Elmina Ramsey b 1898 in Catawba, d 1963 Newton NC
m Marvin Roscoe Williams Sr 1890
father [Daniel?] Stanhope Ramsey
b 1853 Burke NC died before 1900?
mother Fannie Chapman
b 1855 Burke NC
buried Plateau Methodist, Catawaba NC
Stanhope Ramsey is Delia Rosanna Ramsey's brother see 1870 census below
So young Roseanna is the "actual" niece of Delia Roseanna -- NOT niece in law
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| 1880 Lower Fork Burke County North Carolina Census |
Daniel Ramsey 71 NC NC NC farmer [b 1809] Mary Ramsey 57 NC NC NC [Mary Huffman from dau Delia's Death Cert} Polly Ramsey 33 NC NC NC Sarah Ramsey 29 NC NC NC Daniel Ramsey 26 NC NC NC <--This is Daniel Stanhope Ramsey Delia Ramsey 20 NC NC NC <--- Rutha Ramsey 16 NC NC NC Eliza Ramsey 13 NC NC NC George Ramsey 10 NC NC NC Ellen Ramsey 9 NC NC NC Gudger Ramsey 3 NC NC NC |
| 1870 Lower S. Fork Burke County North Carolina Census |
Daniel Ramsey 57 NC farmer 100 313 [b 1813] Mary E Ramsey 48 NC Mary Ramsey 21 NC Molton Ramsey 20 NC Sarah Ramsey 18 NC Stanhope Ramsey 14 NC Rosanna Ramsey 10 NC <---- Ruth Ramsey 6 NC Eliza Ramsey 3 NC George A Ramsey 1/12 NC |
| 1860 Lower S. Fork Burke County North Carolina Census |
Daniel Ramse 45 NC farmer 118 [b 1815] Mary Ramse 40 NC Laban Ramse 19 NC Frances Ramse 17 NC Fanny Ramse 14 NC Polly Ramse 13 NC Molton Ramse 11 NC Sarah Ramse 8 NC |
| 1850 Lower S. Fork Burke County North Carolina Census |
Danl Ramsey 35 NC 500 farmer [b 1815] Mary Ramsey 29 NC Notan Ramsey 10 NC Laben Ramsey 9 NC Frances Ramsey 7 NC Fanny Ramsey 5 NC Mary Ramsey 2 NC Moulton Ramsey 1 NC |
| 1840 West of North Fork Burke County North Carolina Census |
Danl Ramsey Home in 1840 (City, County, State): West of North Fork, Burke, North Carolina Free White Persons - Males - Under 5 : 1 Free White Persons - Males - 20 thru 29 : 1 [1810-1820] Free White Persons - Females - 15 thru 19: 1 [b 1821-1825] Persons Employed in Agriculture: 1 Free White Persons - Under 20: 2 Free White Persons - 20 thru 49: 1 Total Free White Persons: 3 Total All Persons - Free White, Free Colored, Slaves: 3 also in Burke: Henry 30-39 in Burke in 1850 and 1860 b. VA 1805 |
| 1830 Burke County North Carolina Census |
William Ramsey Home in 1830 (City, County, State): Burke, North Carolina pg 31/180 Free White Persons - Males - 5 thru 9: 1 [b 1821-1825] Free White Persons - Males - 10 thru 14: 1 [b 1815-1820] Free White Persons - Males - 50 thru 59: 1 [bb 1770-1780] Free White Persons - Females - 5 thru 9: 2 Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 14: 1 Free White Persons - Females - 50 thru 59: 1 Free White Persons - Under 20: 5 Total Free White Persons: 7 Total - All Persons (Free White, Slaves, Free Colored): 7 also in Burke Joel Burke 40-49 with wife & 8 children pg 165/180 Robert Ramsey 40-49 alone pg 51/180 |
| 1820 Burke County North Carolina Census |
William Ramsey Home in 1820 (City, County, State): Burke, North Carolina pg 12/57 Enumeration Date: August 7, 1820 Free White Persons - Males - Under 10: 1 [one son] Free White Persons - Males - 26 thru 44: 1 [bb 1776-1794] Free White Persons - Females - Under 10: 3 Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 15: 1 Free White Persons - Females - 16 thru 25: 1 Free White Persons - Females - 26 thru 44: 1 Number of Persons - Engaged in Agriculture: 1 Free White Persons - Under 16: 5 Free White Persons - Over 25: 2 Total Free White Persons: 8 Total All Persons - White, Slaves, Colored, Other: 8 also in Burke Joel Ramsey over 45 wife and 7 children pg 29/57 |
| 1810 Burke County North Carolina Census |
William H?? [William Ramsey] Home in 1810 (City, County, State): Morganton, Burke, North Carolina Free White Persons - Males - 16 thru 25: 1 [bb 1785 - 1795] Free White Persons - Females - Under 10: 2 Number of Household Members Under 16: 2 Number of Household Members: 3 William Ramsey Spouse: Margaret Mason [likely the dau of Peter Mason b 1741 MD Marriage Date: 27 Apr 1809 Marriage County: Burke Marriage State: North Carolina Source: County Court Records at Morganton, NC & Family His also in Burke: Richard >45 wife and 3 kids James >45 wife 4 kids Samuel >45 wife 8 kids |
| 1800 Burke County North Carolina Census |
David 26-44 wife 4 kids James 26-44 wife 6 kids Richard >45 1 m 26-44 3 other sons wife > 45 3 dau |
| 1790 Burke County North Carolina Census |
Richard 3 sons wife 3 dau pg 7/11 Eliza self and 1 other female pg 7/11 George 3 sons wife 3 dau pg 9/11 Johnathon & wife pg 9/11 Samuel wife son pg 7/11 |
there are many versions of this:
William Ramsey (1779-1852 Person NC) m. Nancy Jones daughter of Edmund Jones son Daniel Ramsey b 1809 Person NC died 1855 Hpokins KY m 1830 Frances Townsend
But Delia Ramsey's father Daniel was alive in 1880 married to Mary Huffman
John Wesley Ramsey NC census candidates:
Below are 6 possible candidates for the John Wesley Ramsey who married Delia Rosanna Ramsey
- John Ramsey (1855 Cleveland NC-1931 Rutherford NC) son son of Cleveland NC son of Langdon Chief Ramsey (1829-1855) and Margaret Horn (1830-1900) grandson of Alexander Ramsey (1798-1860) and Agnes Dye (1801-1894) J.D. Ramsey Death Certificate Rutherford NC 1931 b 1855 Cleveland County NC age 76 wife Amanda Griggs father John Ramsey? Death Certificate 1934: Amanda Precilla Ramsey father: Frank Savage mother: Maria Teachy husband John D. Ramsey 1930 Rutherford NC J D Ramsey 74 Amanda Ramsey 68 1920 Cleveland NC John D Ramsey 63 Mandy A Ramsey 58 John V Ramsey 17 Summie Ramsey 14 1910 Pender NC John D Ramsey 59 Amand P Ramsey 54 Baily T Ramsey 31 Bertha B Ramsey 29 B*Tte Ramsey 27 Barnie P Ramsey 17 1900 Pender NC John Ramsey 49 Amanda P Ramsey 45 Baly T Ramsey 20 Bertha B Ramsey 19 Bruce B Ramsey 18 Bessie L Ramsey 15 Burney P Ramsey 7 1880 Duncans Creek, Cleveland, North Carolina Margurett Ramsey 47 bc 1833 John D. Ramsey 25 1870 Cleveland Margaret Ramsey 37 b 1833 Henry Ramsey 20 Eliza Ramsey 17 John Ramsey 15 <----------- http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/18541731/person/702518941?ssrc= John is "Johnnie D Ramsey 1855-1931" John Horn 58 NC b 1812 Sarah Horn 27 Clementine Horn 11 1860 Cleveland John Horn 45 b 1815 Margaret Horn 29 [dau of Margaret Horn 1830-1900 widow of husband Langdon Chief Ramsey who died 1855] Henry A Ramsey 9 [Henry Ramsey Death Certificate: mother Margaret Horn father Chief Ramsey, Henry b 1850- d. 1931] Eliza A Ramsey 8 John Ramsey 5 <------------------------ 1850 Cleveland John Horn 34 [son of Margaret below and Henry below with Langdon RAmey] pg 16/206 Margaret Horn 60 b 1790 [Margaret Barlett wife of Henry Horn Sophia Horn 23 [daughter of Margaret and Henry] Langdon C Ramsay 21 NC [Langdon Chief Ramsey 1829-1855] pg 17/206 Margaret Ramsay 19 NC [Margaret Horn 1830-1900] Henry Horn 64 NC [father of Margaret Horn above b 1786 http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~laughlin/conbow/fam01371.htm Langdon Chief Ramsey (1829 Rutherford-1845-50 Cleveland Margaret Horn father Alexander Ramsey (1798- Agnes Dye dau Henry Dye (1801-1894) EXCLUDED -- clearly John "D" Ramsey not John "Wesley" (1900-1930 show him married to Amanda)
- James W. Ramsey son of Job Ramsey (1837 Buncombe-1903 Madison) of Madison NC 1900 Madison NC Job Ramsey 44 Mary E Ramsey 37 Jacob Ramsey 18 Neggie L Ramsey 15 Lattie R Ramsey 13 Cleophus A Ramsey 11 James M Ramsey 9 Jeter P Ramsey 2 1880 Madison Job Ramsey 40 NC NC NC [bc 1840] Rachael Ramsey 39 John Ramsey 17 <--------------- b 1863 Daniel Ramsey 19 son Hester Ramsey 24 dtr-in-law John Ramsey 2 g. son Phillip Ramsey 5m g. son 1870 Madison Job Ramsey Jr. 29 [bc 1841] Rachel Ramsey 28 Rachel Paine bc 1842 m 1855, Buncombe 1850 age 9 father Dan Paine Matilda Jane Ramsey 14 James W Ramsey 12 <-------------- Laurel Ramsey 10 1860 Madison NC Jobe Ramsey 23 Rachel Ramsey 20 Matilda Ramsey 4 James Ramsey 2 <------------- Hirram Ramsey 4/12 EXCLUDED
- John Ramsey son of Jacob Ramsey of Gaston County NC 1880 Dallas, Gaston, NC Catherine Ramsay 60 Margaret Ramsay 33 Caleb Ramsay 24 John Ramsay 23 <---------- Ephraim L. Ramsay 17 1870 Gaston Jacob Ramsey 50 Catharine Ramsey 50 {murphy] Mary Ramsey 26 William Ramsey 22 [william henry 1844-1818 Margaret Ramsey 20 Alonza Ramsey 18 Caleb Ramsey 13 [1861-1929 m Harriet Parker 1865-1909 John Ramsey 11 <--------------- Ephram Ramsey 5 [b 1863 m Mary Micthem 1860 Gaston Jacob Ramsey 40 Catharine Ramsey 40 William Ramsey 15 Margaret Ramsey 13 Eliza Ramsey 10 Lewis Ramsey 8 Caleb Ramsey 5 John Ramsey 3 <------------------- Moses Ramsey 9/12 NOT EXCLUDED (but its 75 miles from Burke (where Delia Rosanna lives) to Dallas NC (Gaston) where this John lives
- John W. Ramsey (1862 Burke -1923 Ashville NC) son of Jonas Ramsey of Burke 1920 Buncombe NC John W Ranoey 55 Ellen L Ranoey 46 Leo B Ranoey 17 James L Ranoey 14 Hazel R Ranoey 13 Veva M Ranoey 9 Hellena Ranoey 3 Marson Mcmanaway 10 Lattree H Branch 20 Lorine E Branch 20 Clarrence Osborne 23 Crissie J Osborne 23 Eugene E Osborne 2 1910 Buncombe NC John W Rainery 46 Ella Ramsey 38 Ollie Ramsey 17 Nellie Ramsey 15 Lurie Ramsey 13 John Ramsey 11 Leo Ramsey 9 Levant Ramsey 5 Hazell Ramsey 3 1880 Lovelady Burke Jonas H[enry] Ramsey 37 prisoner b. 1843 Mary A. Ramsey 37 [maiden name Cook] John W. Ramsey 16 <----------------- b 1864 ---- http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=075&id=I31241 says this is John William Ramsey (1863-1923) wife Ellen Ellen's death certificate in Buncombe father is Jonas Henry Ramsey (1842 Burke - 1885 Burke) mother is Mary Ann Cook (1843-1924) of Burke wife is Ellen L. Gardner (1872 Kershaw SC-1957 Buncombe NC) her death certificate says husband is "John William Ramsey deceased" David A. Ramsey 14 (1865-1934 FL) Joseph E. Ramsey 12 Elsie M. Ramsey 10 Mary E. Ramsey 7 Milton M. Ramsey 8 Lillie L. Ramsey 4 Victoria S. Ramsey 1 1870 Burke Jonas Ramsey 33 b. 1837 Mary Ramsey 25 John Ramsey 9 <---------------- David Ramsey 7 Mary Ramsey 5 Margaret Ramsey 3 1860 Burke Alexr Stamey 38 Belzora Stamey 28 Paul Stamey 10 James W Stamey 7 Francis L Stamey 5 Barbary Stamey 3 Margaret Stamey 80 Jones Ramsey 17 <----------------------- b 1843 Ann Tallent 26 1850 Burke Henry Ramsey 47 Catherine Ramsey 38 George Ramsey 14 William Ramsey 12 Jonas Ramsey 7 <----- b 1843 Elizabeth Ramsey 10 Eliza Ramsey 2 Jonas Ramsey 11th NC conscript deserted jun 17 1863 enlisted Morgantown feb 63 (one card with J H Ramsey) age 27 Co D, One says J H Ramsey the rest Jonas Ramsey Jones Ramsey age 37 1st NC died aug 10 1862 conscript
EXCLUDED: This is John "William" Ramsey clearly married to the same person through his census years
- John W Ramsey of Cleveland NC
m1. Sabra Jane E. Crowder (1836-1904) Children Allen Palmer (1875-1972) m. Willie Gold (1884-1969) child: Ellen Josephine (1905-1996) Margaret (1876-1928) 1920 Sandy Run, Cleveland NC Census listed as single age 43 "cousin" in household of D.G. Washburn Mary (1879-) This http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=RAM&GSpartial=1&GSbyrel=all&GSst=29&GScntry=4&GSsr=1521&GRid=94425873& says: Jane E. Crowder Ramsey Birth: 1836 North Carolina, USA Death: 1904 North Carolina, USA Wife of John W. Ramsey Burial: Union Baptist Church Cemetery Polkville Cleveland County North Carolina, USA in the same cemetery is daughter: Maggie Ramsey Birth: 1876 North Carolina, USA Death: 1928 Cleveland County North Carolina, USA Father is John W. Ramsey Family links: Parents: Jane E. Crowder Ramsey (1836 - 1904) Inscription: d/o JW & JE (JW=John Wesley, JE=Jane E) most sites say she was married to John W Ramsey b 1845 The back of of Allen Crowder's gravestone list his childen. Of Sabra Jane it says: "Sabra Jane E Crowder 1836-1904 m. John W Ramsey 845 - UNK" 1910 Polkville Cleveland NC Allen P Ramsey 34 single Maggie Ramsey 33 sister single 1900 Polkville Cleveland NC (died 1904) Jane E Ramsey 63 widow 4 children 3 surviving Allen P Ramsey 24 death Certificate says Allen Palmer Ramsey b 1875 d 1972 father John Ramsey mother Jane Crowder buried in Polkville NC Maggie Ramsey 23 Dargan V Williams 16 1880 Duncan's Creek, Cleveland NC John Ramsey 35 [so b. 1845] <-------------------------------------- Jane Ramsey 20 (from below implies she is really 43 opr b 1837)
(looks like the 40 in pencil was traced over in ink and shows 20) Allen Ramsey 5 Maggie Ramsey 3 Marry Ramsey 1 1870 Cleveland, North Carolina Allen Crowder 77 Phebe Crowder 72 Jane Crowder 33 <--- bc 1837 notice the serious age differnce in 1880 (lost 23 years?) John Crowder 40 Biddy Crowder 33 Plato Crowder 10/12 Lawson Rooks 20 1860 cleveland NC Allen Crowder 70 Phebe Crowder 65 Jno B Crowder 28 Jane Crowder 21 <--- bc 1839 Perry White 10 H Borders 56 Levicey Borders 51 James A Borders 20 Susan Borders 17 William Borders 14 Ella J Borders 12 Martha C Borders 7 1850 cleveland NC Allen Crowder 60 Phoebe Crowder 59 William D Crowder 23 John K Crowder 20 Allen P Crowder 19 Isabella Crowder 18 Sarah S Crowder 17 Jam E Crowder 13 <---bc 1837Several ancestry.com genealogies list him as John W RAmsey who married Sabra Jane Crowder and had three kids (1880) then abruptly disappears I cannot find this John anywhere EXCEPT the 1880 census
He could be divorced and remaaired in the twenty years between 1880 and 1900
NOT EXCLUDED
- John W Ramsey son of Thomas J Ramsey of Cleveland NC Wife Meliisa Wiggins (1828-1909 Cleveland NC) 1900 Cleveland NC Malissa Ramsey 70 NC NC NC 6 children 3 surviving (Joseph Marshall, Carolina Bridges, Augustus B) This implies that son John Wesley Ramsey is deceased (8 in 1860) This implies that dau Annie E Ramsey is deceased (4 in 1860) Marshal Ramsey 44 1943 Death Certificate: Joseph Marshall Ramsey Gender:Male Age: 83 Birth Date: 28 Dec 1859 Birth Place: Bostic R 2, North Carolina, United States Death Date: 8 Mar 1943 Death Location: Logan Store, Rutherford Spouse's Name: Sallie Proctor Father's Name: Thos Ramsey <--------------------- Mother's Name: Malisie Wiggins <----------------- Residence: Bostic, Rutherford, North Carolina Walter Horn 8 1880 Sandy Run Cleveland NC pg 24/32 Melissa Ramsey 52 NC SC SC Z. Bridges 22 {this is Zack Bridges (1857-1922) S. L. C. Bridges 19 [This is Carolina Ramsey who m 1879 in Cleveland NC Zack (Zachariah) Bridges above S.L. Carolina Ramsey (1861-1948 Rutherford NC) Buried at Sandy Plains Baptist Church 1870 Cleveland NC Malissa Ramsey 39 b 1831 Augustin Ramsey 16 [Augustus 1851-1910 lived in Rutherford NC m. Hester Doty] Marshal Ramsey 14 Caroline Ramsey 9 1860 Cleveland NC Thomas Ramsey 32 Malissa Ramsey 30 [This is Melissa Wiggins, b 1830] John W Ramsey 8 <--------------------------------- Augustus B Ramsey 6 [Named for Melissa'a father] Annie E Ramsey 4 Joseph M Ramsey 1 [Joseph Marshall Ramsey b Rutherford NC 1859- d 1943 Rutherford NC Albert Borders 24 Cynthia Borders 22 Lucretia Borders 3 1850 Cleveland NC Thomas Rumsay 22 Melissa Ramsay 20 b 1830 adjacent to Augustus (age 46 b NC) and Lavinia Wiggins (age 47 b NC) Thomas J Ramsey Residence: Cleveland County, North Carolina, North Carolina Occupation: Farmer Age at enlistment: 31 Enlistment Date: 2 Nov 1861 Rank at enlistment: Private Enlistment Place: Cleveland County, North Carolina State Served: North Carolina Survived the War?: No Service Record: Enlisted in Company I, North Carolina 38th Infantry Regiment on 31 Dec 1861. Killed Company I, 38th Infantry Regiment North Carolina on 1 Jul 1863 at Gettysburg, PA. Birth Date: abt 1830 Summary of Compiled Military Service Record:
NC Confederate Pension applied for by Malissa Ramsey 1902 The pension says: June 17 1902 Malisssa Ramsey age 69 resident of New House post-office in ? NC... widow of Thomas J Ramsey Company I 38th NC Infantry enlisted Nov 22 1861... Killed at Gettysburg July 1 8163...No information provided about Thomas and Malissa's children
- Enlisted Nov 21 1861 Cleveland County
- Mustered in Camp Magnum Cleveland County Dec 31 1861
- Age 31, born Rutherford County NC, Farmer 5'11"
- Killed July 1 1863 Gettsburg
- Selected to receive "The Badge of Honor" for valient conduct at Chancellorsville
Of the list of the 5 John Ramsey's on the 1850/1860/1870 censuses of western NC, only one "John W Ramsey" appears (above as son of Thomas J. Ramsey of Cleveland County NC). The name Wesley is specifically used on some death records
Based on the stated birth [place of Rutherford NC, there is this Ramsey in Rutherford in 1830: Alexander Ramsey:
Name:Alexander Ramsey Home in 1830 (City, County, State): Rutherford, North Carolina Free White Persons - Males - Under 5: 3 Free White Persons - Males - 20 thru 29: 1 Free White Persons - Females - 15 thru 19: 1 Slaves - Females - Under 10: 1 Free White Persons - Under 20: 4 Free White Persons - 20 thru 49: 1 Total Free White Persons: 5 Total Slaves: 1 Total - All Persons (Free White, Slaves, Free Colored):6 AND Reuben Ramsey Home in 1830 (City, County, State): Rutherford, North Carolina Free White Persons - Males - Under 5: 2 Free White Persons - Males - 5 thru 9: 3 [five sons born 1920-1830] Free White Persons - Males - 40 thru 49: 1 Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 14: 1 Free White Persons - Females - 15 thru 19: 1 Free White Persons - Females - 30 thru 39: 1 Free White Persons - Under 20: 7 Free White Persons - 20 thru 49: 2 Total Free White Persons: 9 Total - All Persons (Free White, Slaves, Free Colored): 9 Name: Reuben Ramsey Home in 1840 (City, County, State): Gasconade, Missouri Free White Persons - Males - Under 5: 1 Free White Persons - Males - 5 thru 9: 2 [2 sons born in 1830s] Free White Persons - Males - 10 thru 14: 1 Free White Persons - Males - 15 thru 19: 1 [only 2 sons of 5 b 1820s] Free White Persons - Males - 50 thru 59: 1 [b 1780-1790] Free White Persons - Females - Under 5: 1 Free White Persons - Females - 20 thru 29: 2 Free White Persons - Females - 40 thru 49: 1 Persons Employed in Agriculture: 1 No. White Persons over 20 Who Cannot Read and Write: Free White Persons - Under 20: 6 Free White Persons - 20 thru 49: 3 Total Free White Persons: 10 Total All Persons - Free White, Free Colored, Slaves: 10 1850 Osage MO Reuben Ramsey 65 [bc 1785 NC] Milly Ramsey 60 Polly Ramsey 34 William Ramsey 30 b 1820 Richard Ramsey 27 b 1823 Joseph Ramsey 21 b 1829 [so only 3 of five sons accounted for in 1850 Osage MO] Elizabeth Ramsey 15 Mary Ann McDaniel 14 Elizabeth McDaniel 12 Noah McDaniel 5 Richard McDaniel 40Reuben Ramsey (b 1785 NC) is in Gasconade, Missouri in 1840, and Osage MO in 1850. Wife is Mildred Searcy
An Alexander Ramsey appears on the 1860 Cleveland NC Census age 62 b SC, wife Agnes age 60 (pg 121/257). Son Alex age 20, Dau Cynthia age 21. These same 4 people appear in Cleveland County in 1850. Alexander and Agnes m. 1820 Rutherford NC But NO Thomas appears on Alexander's will. Further Alexander had a son named Thomas "Jefferson" Ramsey who died in 1855 making it very unlikely that he has a son Thomas killed in the Civil War in 1863.
"There is a Will that mentions the following Children The children of Celia Pannell Ramsey Hamrick, wife of Berry Hamrick, widow of Jefferson Ramsey, 3 Children, Grandison S Ramsey, Sarah Jane Ramsey Bridges wife of J. M. Bridges, and Martin Pannell Ramsey. John Ramsey and his son John (Preston) Ramsey They resided in South Carolina. The Children of Langdon Ramsey including Henry Ramsey Cynthia Ramsey Brooks, 1st wife of Andrew Brooks."
See this: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=28425157
So we can EXCLUDE ALEXANDER RAMSEY as Thomas' father
Thomas J Ramsey appears on pg (61/257) in 1860 Cleveland NC census
Delia Rosanna Ramsey who married John Wesley Ramsey was living in Burke (daughter of Daniel Ramsey (1809 Person NC- ) and Mary Huffman (1823-0 )
Counties:
Cleveland from Rutherford and Lincoln in 1841
Catawba from Lincoln 1842
Gaston from Lincoln 1846
As Cleveland was formed from Rutherford in 1841, Thomas Ramsey's statement that he was born in Rutherford in 1828 makes sense -- he didn't have to move to change counties
Delia Rosanna Ramsey must have moved to Lincoln from Burke after her marriage to John Wesley Ramsey. So we would expect to find John Wesley Ramsey in Lincoln having moved from Cleveland sometimes after 1860.
NC Death Certificate Fannie N Ramsey White 46 21 Dec 1944 Burke North Carolina NC State Archives. North Carolina Deaths, 1908-67 NC Death Certificate (ancestry.com) Name: Daniel Pressley Ramsey Gender: Male Race: White Marital Status: Married Age: 84 Date of Birth: 21 Feb 1895 [same birthdate as above,diff year from WWI draft card] Birth Location: North Carolina Birth State: North Carolina Residence County: Catawba Residence state: North Carolina Date of Death: 28 Jul 1979 Death County: Catawba Death State: North Carolina Autopsy: No Institution: Home Attendant: Physician Burial Location: Burial in state Source Vendor: NC Department of Health. North Carolina Deaths, 1979-82 North Carolina Deaths and Burials (familysearch.org) This Name: Daniel Pressley Ramsey Gender: Male Burial Date: 30 Jul 1979 Burial Place: Fallston, Nc Death Date: 28 Jul 1979 Death Place: Vale, Catawba, N.C. Age: 84 Birth Date: 21 Feb 1895 Birthplace: Burke Co., Nc <---- Occupation: Farmer Race: White Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Mary Fannie Smith <--------- Father's Name: Father's Birthplace: Mother's Name: Fannie Ramsey <------------ Mother's Birthplace: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B01418-3 System Origin: North Carolina-EASy Source Film Number: 1984526 Reference Number: v 23B cn 23831
This says: Daniel Pressley Ramsey Birth 21 Feb 1895 in Lincoln, North Carolina Death 28 Jul 1979 in Catawba, North Carolina Parents: Wesley Ramsey 1860 Delia Roseanna Ramsey (1861-1917) dau of Daniel Ramsey (1809- ) and Mary Huffman (1823- Children of Wesley Ramsey and Delia Roseanna Ramsey: 1. Major Lee Ramsey (1882- dec 1 1933 Newton, Catawba NC) [death certificates says father is J. W. Ramsey, mother don't know buried Cleveland Co NC, son JW signs 1920 Cleveland Census Lee Ramsey 35 Bessie 25 [Bessie Ella Sisk 1895-1985] John W 5 <-------------------------------------------------- Sallie 3 Hilliard 1, dau Sallie 3 1930 Lincoln NC Lee Ramsey 45 farmer Bessie Ramsey 34 John W Ramsey 15 <----- b 1915 ---------------------------- Dollie Maude Ramsey 13 Hillard Ramsey 11 James Ramsey 9 Bruce Ramsey 7 Ada Ramsey 5 Lester Ramsey 1 3/12 1940 Caswell NC Carena Trorder 49 Fonza Martin 30 Laura Lee Martin 17 Felmet Ruth Martin 19 Rufus D Bivins 59 Iricord Russel 18 Henry McLain 27 Martin M Bivins 52 Erwin Bivins 18 Ramsey Weslen Ramsely 25 lodger <------ see draft registration below Census says he lived in GAston NC in 1935 works in a saw mill Vance Dameron 18 The name appears on other "Lee Ramsey" trees often with additional name Sidney. Major Lee Ramsey has a son named John Wesley Ramsey (b 1915 on both censuses above There is a WWII Draft registration for "John Wesley Ramsey" b Nov 1 1914 Mother Bessie Ramsey of Newton, Catawba Living in Leesburg, Caswell NC. He is white, 5'9" 195 blue eyes blonde hair ruddy complexion Death Certificate says b Nov 1 1914 Catawba 3rd grade education, farmer died Apr 30 1997, New Hill, Wake NC, widowed (same person as above)
Name: Lee Ramsey Death Event Date: 02 Dec 1933 Event Place: Newton, Catawba, North Carolina Birth Year: 1882 Burial Date: 03 Dec 1933 Burial Place: Cleveland Co., N.C. Residence Place: Newton, N.C. Age: 50 Marital Status: Married Race (Original): White Occupation: Farming Birth Date: 25 Dec 1882 Birthplace: N.C. Father's Name: J. W. Ramsey Father's Birthplace: N.C. Mother's Name: not provided2. Candis Zula Ramsey (1887 - 1965) m. Fred S. Holden (1885-1958 Hickory NC) [death certificates says father is Wesley Ramsey, mother Rosa Ramsey both buried Winkler's Grove Catawba NC]
Name: Candis Zula Holden Death Event Date: 16 Jun 1965 Event Place: Hickory, Catawba, North Carolina Birth Year: 1887 Burial Date: 18 Jun 1965 Burial Place: Burke County, N. C. Cemetery:Winklers Grove Bapt. Residence Place: Hickory, Catawba, N. C. Address: 2220 Main Avenue, N. W. Gender: Female Age: 78 Marital Status: Widowed Race (Original): White Occupation: Housewife Birth Date: 05 Jun 1887 Birthplace: Lincoln County, N. C. Father's Name: Wesley Ramsey <---------------------- Father's Birthplace: Mother's Name: Rosa Ramsey <----------------- 1910 Bean's Lincoln NC Frederick Holden 24 Zula K Holden 22 Guder L Holden 5 Charles E Holden 2 1920 North Brook, Lincoln, North Carolina Fred Holden 34 Candas Holden 33 Gudger Holden 16 Everett Holden 12 Bright Holden 9 Mable Holden 7 Ina Holden 4 F S Holden 1 1940 Rural, Catawba, North Carolina Fred Holden 54 Zula Holden 53 Mary E Holden 14 Earl Holden 9 Mozelle Holden 83. May Ramsey 1890 4. Daniel Pressley Ramsey 1895 - 1965 5. Mamie L Ramsey 1901 (likely not ? as Wesley died before 1900 census) NC Death Certifictae 1990 doesn't state mother or father 1930 Gaston NC Robert Huffstetler 34 son of John Wesley Huffstetler and Margaret Abernathy , wife Mamie Ramsey 1896-1975 Mamie Huffstetler 29 Paul Huffstetler 8 Ralph Huffstetler 5 This North Carolina Death Certificates at ancestry.com says: Delia Rosana Ramsey Gender: Female Race: White Age: 55 Birth Date: 17 Jun 1861 Birth Place: North Carolina, United States Death Date: 21 May 1917 Death Location: Cherryville, Gaston Father's name: Daniel Ramsey Mother's name: Mary Huffman
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=26474018
Posted By: Brenda Huffman Stewart Subject: Re: HOFFMAN?HUFFMAN Family Platinate>NC>TN Post Date: November 11, 2001 at 19:02:18 Message URL: http://genforum.genealogy.com/huffman/messages/2567.html Forum: Huffman Family Genealogy Forum Forum URL: http://genforum.genealogy.com/huffman/ Ludwig born 1622> he stayed in Germany He had 2 sons. Hendrix and Paulus. Paulus born 1660 lived in Bohemia later moved to the Palatinate Section of Germany he married Barbara Prudentia. They had a son Martinus born in 1685 and Martinus had 3 sons moved to Pennsylvania and New Jersey. Paulus and Barbara's other son Hans,Geroge born 1689 married to Priscilla. She was born about 1690 died about 1775 George died 1773. They had 4 sons Casper(Jasper),John, Hans George born in Palatinate Province of Germany moved to Pennsylvania and North Carolina. George was born in 1713 died 1794 married Catherine Rein. She died in 1787 in Catawba Co. N.C. George and Catherine had five children 1. Martin born 1735 died 11-10-1822 He married Barbara Aker in 1762 died 1823. 2. Baltazar born 1741 died about 1780. Married Catherine Wagoner. He was on a trip to Georgia when he was mysteriouly Killed. 3. Samuel born 1747 died may 1810 in Burke Co. N.C. He married Barbara Moser in 1778 she was born 1755. 4. Catherine Hoffman born 1754. 5. Elizabeth Hoffman born 1755 married Conrad Hildebrand in 1774 in Burke Co. N.C. George and Catherine's family lived in Upper Rhine Valley of the Palatine Germany the section was called Electoral Palatine located near Heidelberg Germany. They left Germany cause of the great religious movement the Reformation and fled to America. George and Catherine took their children in spring of 1749. Then spend 5 wks. on a river boat going down the Rhine River to Rotterdam, Holland and waited 12 days they left Europe on Aug. 12 1749 Headed to America on the British Ship the Jacob it dropped anchor at the English Port Cowes where it was detained for 8 days as all emigrants theere were required to renounce their allegiance to Great Brittain and then make preparation for the final voyage across the Atlantic Oc. They landed Oct.1,1749 at Port Philadelphia Penn. They spent their first year in Berk Co. Penn. 1750 They joined the Germany migration South stopping in the Shenandoah Valley section of Virginia. In 1752 they joined the Germany, Dutch, and Scotch migration settled Great Alamance section in Orange Co. but is now known as Alamance Co. In 1765 George moved his family throught the Yadkin River and on to Catawba River Valley. They crossed the Catwaba River and went about 8 miles in to the head-waters of Clarks Creek where they settled today that is 2 miles west of the Town Conover N.C. Samuel in 1778 married Barbara Moser of Liles Creek Burke Co. They settled in Burke Co. and build a log house on the banks of the Upper South Fork River This is when the name was spelled Huffman they were the first to spell it that way. They had 10 children: 1- Eva born 1778 Died 1860 married Leonard Higdon in 1795 he died 1818. 2- Mary born 1779 married John Moser. 3- Elizabeth (Betty) born 1780 died 1850 married Thomas Walker. 4- Abram Huffman born 1782 married Betty Burns. 5- Frederick Huffman born Feb. 9, 1784 in Berke Co. N.C. died 1884 in Jackson Co. N>C. married Francis Warlick AKA Francis Hildebrand. 6- Burke Huffman born 1789 died 5-21-1858 in Lowa he married to Mary Miller. 7- Casper(Jasper) born 1792. 8- Cathereine born 1794. 9- Barbara Moser Huffman born 1798 died 1860 married to William(Billy) Carswell born 1798 died 1863. 10- Michael born 12-18-1798 died 3-31-1872.
See http://www.maconnchistorical.org/gen/l_wood/h_j/higdon.pdf
On page 77 (third document page) is the Frederick Hoffman (son of Samuel) story
The fourth page confirms that Frederick's Daughter Mary Hoffman married Daniel Ramsey of Burke NC.
William Ramsey 1778 Person NC-1852 Person NC start here
William Ramsey Birth: 02 DEC 1778 in Person, NC Death: 07 MAR 1852 in Person, NC Father: Daniel Ramsey b: 1755 Mother: Frances Townsend Marriage 1 Nancy Jones b: 1785 in NC, USA •Married: 1796 1 Children 1. Hensly Ramsey b: ABT 1801 in Person Co., North Carolina 2. Archibald Bauldy Ramsey b: 1802 in Granville, NC, USA 3. David Ramsey b: 22 JUN 1805 in NC, USA 4. Daniel Ramsey b: 09 AUG 1809 in Person, NC, USA <------- 5. Frances Ramsey b: 16 NOV 1797 in Person, NC, USA 6. Thomas T Ramsey b: 01 MAY 1818 in Person, NC, USA 7. Woodson Q Ramsey b: 1807 in Person, NC, USA 8. Edmund Ramsey b: 1803 in Person, NC, USA 1850 Person NC Census William Ramsey 71 Mary Ramsey 65 There is a marriage record of William Ramsey to Mary Boswell in Person in 1836. William's first wife Nancy Jones died in 1835 There is a record of William Ramsey serving in the War of 1912 (widow Nancy) as a Private in Jacob Henry's NC Militia http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=marthakableander&id=P34677 Daniel Sr. RAMSEY Birth: abt 1740 Death: bef 1810 in NC, Person Co. Marriage 1 Wife DANIEL SR. Ramsey Children 1. Daniel Jr. RAMSEY b: 1763 2. William RAMSEY b: 2 Dec 1778 in NC, Person Co. 3. Lewis RAMSEY b: abt 1778 in NC, Caswell Co. There are two Danile Ramsey's on the 1800 Person Census Dane Bamsey [This is William Ramsey's father aka Daniel Ramsey Senior] Home in 1800 (City, County, State): Hillsborough, Person, North Carolina Free White Persons - Males - 16 thru 25: 2 Free White Persons - Males - 45 and over: 1 [b before 1755] Free White Persons - Females - Under 10: 1 Free White Persons - Females - 16 thru 25: 2 Free White Persons - Females - 45 and over: 1 Number of Household Members Under 16: 1 Number of Household Members Over 25: 2 Number of Household Members: 7 Dane Bamsey Junior Home in 1800 (City, County, State): Hillsborough, Person, North Carolina Free White Persons - Males - Under 10: 3 Free White Persons - Males - 26 thru 44: 1 [bb 1756 and 1774] Free White Persons - Females - Under 10: 2 Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 15: 2 Free White Persons - Females - 26 thru 44: 1 Number of Household Members Under 16: 7 Number of Household Members Over 25: 2 Number of Household Members: 9
See This)
Information from Burke County Historical Society Publication
Samuel Hoffman born in the year 1747 came with his parents to America in 1749.
In 1778 he married Barbara Moser and they moved to Burke County, North Carolina.
They settled along the banks of the Henry River approximately two miles west
of the Henry River bridge on Highway #18 south of Morganton. During
the Revolutionary War on October 2 1780, Samuel joined Colonel McDowell's band
of mountaineers as they passed near his home on the old Laurel Road. They were
going south to meet and do battle with a British force under Major Patrick Ferguson.
Five days later they joined the Battle of Kings Mountain with other patriots
from Virginia and the carolinas to annihilate Ferguson's Army. Samuel Hoffman
living in a remote section of the county was a man of high attributes, undaunted
courage, and admired by his neighbors. Dying at the early age of sixty-three years,
he was buried near his home in the Hildebrand graveyard.
There is a book on the Hoffamn family in the Burke County Public Library, Morgantown NC:
"The Hoffmans of North Carolina" by Max Ellis Hoffman, 1938,
Samuel Hoffmans story is also told in:
"Samuel Hoffman served under Colonel Joseph McDowell in his drive to Gilbert Town
and Kings Mountain to capture Ferguson's British Army. He was a patriotic citizen,
also well known for his honesty and stability, and many high tributes ..."
found in "North Carolina: the Old north state and the new, Volume 4", pages 463-437.
by Archibald Henderson, 1941.
This book is also in the Burke Public Library.
John F. Beam
Compiled Military Service Record
Private Company G 57 NC Infantry
The following postings by Ray H. Smith chronical his efforts to locate the parents of Thomas Augustus Smith (1783-1950). These postings occurred over an 11 year period from 1999-2009.
Posted by: Ray H. Smith Date: July 15, 1999 at 13:19:29
From: "Ray H. Smith"
W. D. FLOYD in September of 2000 posted Burke Co. NC marriage bonds from
1700's to mid 1800's. I am trying to find my g grandmother Jemima SMITH.
Surely she is a descendant of one of the many SMITH marriages listed in the
posting. Jemima is caucasian by the way.
It would be my guess she was born in the 1830s and probably died 1913-1918
period.
Her children were:
Am trying to tie in with Peter Smith and Hannah Bess who lived in Gaston
County. Am related to the Bess portion of this couple by virtue of being kin
to Peter Hoyle.
Thank you for reading this far!
Posted by: Ray H. Smith Date: June 10, 2001 at 12:14:54
In Reply to: Minor W. Smith by Ronald Arrowood of 831
LDS site Says that Minor Winn (Wynn) SMITH was born a.1782 Loudoun County, VA. He died 1852 in Cleveland County, NC.I am looking for my g grandmother Jemima SMITH in the Counties West of the Catawba to no avail. She was born a. 1830s and died by my guess prior to WWI. she had my Grandfather Thomas Augustus SMITH in 1873 in Shelby Twp of Cleveland County.
Minor's parents were Clator SMITH, Jr. and Mary HAMRICK both of Loudoun County, Virginia; which was the place of their birth and death.
I don't know, maybe Minor never married. Sure would like to comeup with some additional information about Jemima
From: "Ray H. Smith"
On page 94 in Summers Twp. in 1870 Caldwell County Census there are two
Jemima SMITHs. Might I ask for the head of household and the ages for the
Jemimas.Then on the 1900 Caldwell County Census page 159, dwelling 91 there is a
Jemima SMITH listed also. Here again need to know the head of household and
the age of this Jemima. Could this one be one of the two noted on the 1870
Census? Trying to find my ggrandmother who roamed the Counties West of the
Catawba River. She had three children James P. SMITH b. 15 May 1859;
Elizabeth TUCKER b. abt. 1862; Thomas Augustus SMITH b. 15 August 1873.
Would any of these Jemimas be of childbearing during this time span?
Thank you for reading this far; looking for ancestors not descendants
From: "Ray Smith"
The above three sons are the children of Elizabeth "Lizzie" TUCKER- daughter of Alice aka Jemima SMITH and John TUCKER both of Burke County and George Washington "Wash" ABERNATHY. This couple lived in Burke County. I believe Lizzie died in the Silver Creek Twp of the County in January of 1931. This couple is buried in the Hildebran First Baptist Church Cemetery in Hildebran, NC.
Are there great -or- grand children of J. Daniel, William Robert, or Foster Robert ABERNATHY that would be willing to exchange whatever information is available about Alice aka Jemima SMITH? She is also the mother of my grandfather Thomas Augustus SMITH. 1873-1950 who is buried here in Cherryville, NC.
Thank You.
From: "rsmith2092"
I found in my old notes Jemima SMITH born June 9, 1840 place unknown. Her name appears immediately underneath the name Thomas C. SMITH. Could Jemima have been the daughter of Thomas C.? She named one of her base born sons Thomas Augustus SMITH-my grandfather.
There is no paper trail for Jemima other than her name being on the death certificate of her daughter Elizabeth "Lizzie" Tucker ABERNATHY. "Lizzie" was the wife of G. W. "Wash" ABERNATHY and was a resident of Burke Co., NC.
I hope there is somone out there who can help me. Ray Smith in Gaston Co., NC
From: "rsmith2092"
Betty, we have corresponded before.
My John M. TUCKER is the son of your John TUCKER. My John M. fathered a
child with my great grandmother Jemima aka Alice SMITH in Burke County, NC.
The child was a daughter Elizabeth "Lizzie" who married G. W."Wash"
ABERNATHY in 1878 Burke Co.
My grandfather Thomas Augustus SMITH is found as a bound boy in the 1880
Cleveland County Census. In that household is a Thomas TUCKER-son of JOHN M.
TUCKER. My grandfather's father was Ransom H. WILLIAMS.
I am repeating myself as you can see.
Anything new along this line that you would want to pass on at this time?
Ray Smith in Cherryville, NC
From: "Sue Kerr"
Betty and Ray,
After seeing your information on your Tucker family, I looked through the
files my husband had on Tuckers. His line is through George Tucker and his
daughter Abigail and Ransom King.
1823 Wilson County, Tn Court Minutes
Ransom Williams by Guardian Plt. Vs. Ransom King Deft.
What is the connection between Ransom Williams and Ransom King?
My husband, Bill, passed away a year ago and I'm just getting started on
research again. Any help will be appreciated.
Sue
From: "Ray H. Smith"
Is there on record of a SKIDMORE male impregnating a WILLIAMS female in Surry County, NC in about 1790?
There were only two SKIDMORE Families in the 1790 Census. One having the given name of John whom I suspect or one of his sons. The other being Abram Skidmore.
There were Six (6) WILLIAMS Families listed in this Census who's given names were John (3) in number, Joseph, Moses, and lastly Thomas WILLIAMS. I can only speculate tht a daughter of one of the John's is the unwed mother.
If there is someone out there that has some knowledge of this "please" contact me. I am in Gaston County, NC.
Thank you for reading this far.
Ray
So, according to Ray Smith:
Thomas A Smith's mother is Jemima Smith
This says:
Ransom H. Williams (1834 Burke NC-1913 Lincoln NC)
Jemima Smith had three children:
1. James Pinckney Smith (1859 Lincoln NC-1941 Catawba NC).
2. Elizabeth Tucker (1862 Burke NC-1931 Burke NC).
3. Thomas A Smith (1783-1950)
Here is Jemima Smith in 1850, 1860, 1870:
This site shows
that all the people shown above in the Caldwell 1860 and 1870 censuses are
the family of "Dutch Henry" Smith (d 1848) and Christina Koch
Ransom H Williams
Compiled Military Service Record
Private Company G 58th North Carolina Infantry
"The 58th Infantry Regiment was organized in Mitchell County, North Carolina, in July,
1862. Its twelve companies were recruited in the counties of Mitchell, Yancey,
Watauga, Caldwell, McDowell, and Ashe. In September it moved to Cumberland Gap and
spent the winter of 1862-1863 at Big Creek Gap, near Jacksboro, Tennessee. The 58th
participated in the campaigns of the Army of Tennessee from Chickamauga to Atlanta ,
guarded prisoners at Columbia, Tennessee, during Hood's operations, then moved to
South Carolina and skirmished along the Edisto River. Later it returned to North
Carolina and saw action at Bentonville . It lost 46 killed and 114 wounded at
Chickamauga, totalled 327 men and 186 arms in December, 1863, and took about 300
effectives to Bentonville. The unit was included in the surrender on April 26, 1865."
The northern colonies were becoming increasingly overcrowded and much of the better land had been settled. To the south was a
milder climate and cheaper land, especially inland areas. There were only two ways to travel to the southern colonies in those
days, either sailing by ship or by traveling overland on the Great Wagon Road from Philadelphia, through the Shenandoah Valley,
over the Blue Ridge and into North Carolina. Philip traveled over this land route, which was more like what we today would call
a trail than a road. Philip ended up in Salisbury, North Carolina, as a young teenager. One of the many Great Wagon Road
branch trails, once used by buffalo and Indians exclusively, directly passed by the area that is now Gaston County, North
Carolina. In Philip's day it was Tryon County in the British Colony of North Carolina. Philip found himself living here
on a family farm on Beaverdam Creek just a few miles from present-day Crouse, North Carolina.
BATTLE OF RAMSOUR'S MILL (this tells of Col John Moore, son of Moses Mooore (ancestory of Mary Fannie Smith)
John Moore had joined the British army and was made lieutenant-colonel of Hamilton's North Carolina Loyalist Regiment. He took
an active part in arousing and increasing the Loyalist element in Lincoln County (Lincoln County was formed when Tryon County
was split in 1779). Moses Moore, John's father, made his home on Indian Creek, very near where Philip lived. On June 10, 1780,
Colonel Moore called a meeting of the Loyalists at his father's residence, where about 40 men gathered. Subsequent to this meeting,
he directed those in attendance to meet on June 13th at Derick Ramsour's Mill (located about eight miles from his father's farm in
what is now Lincolnton, North Carolina) and to make ready for anticipated Revolutionary confrontations. Emotions, whipped up, ran
high in the people of the local area where many had long been loyal to King George. By the time June 13th rolled around over 200 Loyalist
men had appeared at Ramsour's Mill, where they commenced grinding grain in anticipation of joining forces with the British in South
Carolina. On June 14th they were joined by many more men and by June 19th the number of Loyalists had grown to approximately 1,200. Philip
Crouse was, without much doubt, among them.
More than 300 of these 1,200 men did not have weapons. They encamped on a hillside ridge about three hundred yards east of Ramsour's Mill.
The ridge had a gentle slope and was open, except for a few trees, for two hundred yards. At the base of the hill, to the south and east,
was a glade, the side of which was covered by bushes.
The Revolutionary forces amounted to only about 400 men and were commanded by Colonel Francis Locke. On June 19th, they gathered twelve miles
from the Loyalist stronghold. They calculated their best chance of success, considering their lesser numbers, was to mount a surprise attack
before their own forces could be detected. So, it was decided they would march all night and surprise the Loyalists at sunrise. It was determined
that a surprise attack, in a situation where the Loyalists would be unaware of the Revolutionaries' inferior numbers, should be sufficient to
rout them. With about 100 men under Colonel Locke mounted, it was agreed that this force would open the attack. The foot soldiers would
follow. Late that evening they marched for Ramsour's Mill.
About a mile from the mill Colonel Locke was met by Adam Reep and his small company of about 20 men. Reep was a noted Revolutionary, although
his neighbors were generally loyal to King George. He gave Colonel Locke full account of the Loyalist position. Armed with this knowledge and
his men spoiling for a fight, the stage for battle was set as dawn broke on Tuesday, June 20, 1780.
The first contact between forces occurred when the Revolutionary Cavalry came upon and surprised a Loyalist picket placed six hundred yards in
an advanced position. The picket fired and retreated to the main camp as the battle escalated. A dense fog covered the area as the Revolutionary
horsemen came in from the east. They rode up within 30 steps and opened fire, throwing the Loyalists into confusion. Those Loyalists without
weapons retreated to the rear and out of the battle scene. The remaining Loyalists, gripping their senses and seeing only about 100 of the enemy
attacking, quickly regrouped and rallied, raining such hot fire that the Revolutionary horsemen retreated back through their infantry. Some of
the Revolutionary infantry also retreated and never returned to the battle. The remaining Revolutionary infantry advanced, firing their muskets,
then stepping back a few steps to reload. As they prepared for their next round of fire, others stepped forward and spent their ammunition.
The six hundred yard charge toward the hilltop entrenched Loyalists had greatly disorganized the Revolutionary line. Seeing an opening for
victory and anxious to take advantage of the Revolutionary forces' disarray, the Loyalist infantry poured down from the hilltop. The Revolutionary
forces quickly filled their own gaps, spontaneously reorganized, and the fighting remained fierce for about an hour. The fire was so deadly the
Loyalists gradually retreated back to the hilltop, and a little beyond, in an attempt to protect themselves from the onslaught. From the
advantage of the elevated position the Loyalists were able to rain bullets on the pursuing Revolutionaries driving them nearly back to
the glade, and then once again the Loyalists advanced partway down the hill.
Shielded by a fence the Revolutionaries were able to commence a galling fire on the right flank of the Loyalists, again forcing a retreat
back up the hill and then further along the ridge toward the summit to their former position. But now a part of the summit was occupied by
the Revolutionaries, and in two instances hand-to-hand battle ensued. Neither side had bayonets, so they struck each other with the butts
of their guns. Men often recognized individuals they knew in the opposite camp and, as they battled even instigated heated banter, at times.
There were no uniforms on either side of the conflict, so to tell friend from foe the Loyalists wore green pine twigs in their hats. The
Revolutionaries didn't make the most intelligent choice for their identification. They wore a white piece of paper or cloth in their hats
so many of their dead where found shot in the head, as the white badge of allegiance provided an excellent long-range bull's-eye target.
In some cases, when things looked particularly dicey a combatant cagily took his identification from his hat and slipped away undetected.
The Revolutionaries had the benefit of preplanning their attack and so when the Loyalists were once again exposed on the hillside, they took
advantage of their preparedness. Their plan, as executed, was to simultaneously flank the left and right of the Loyalists. With vicious fire
from the flanks and pressed from the front, the Loyalist resolve broke and they fled down the backside of the hill toward the mill pond.
Many were picked off as they scattered. Preparing for another attack the Revolutionaries, now gathered on the hilltop, could only muster a
meager 110 men for further battle - but they were not needed. Unaware of the Revolutionaries' inferior strength and, effective command from
Colonel Moore not forthcoming, the Loyalists dispersed.
Seventy or more from both sides died in battle, their bodies strewn over the hill. Of the seventy, about forty were Revolutionaries. Around
one hundred of the men on each side were wounded, some of whom later died.
Colonel Moore and about thirty men made their way to the headquarters of his commander Lord Cornwallis. Cornwallis was not impressed
by Colonel Moore's actions. Moore was put under arrest and threatened with court-martial for his disobedience of orders leading up to
the Battle of Ramsour's Mill. He was finally released.
Source: Crouse Family History, 2nd Edition, copyright (c) 1995-2000, Rogue Publishing, Seattle, Washington.
Thomas A Smith
North Carolina Marriages, 1759-1979
Name: Thos. A. Smith
Groom's Birth Date: 1871
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age: 20
Bride's Name: Elira C. Beam
Bride's Birth Date: 1873
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age: 18
Marriage Date: 26 Apr 1891
Marriage Place: Cherryville Township, Gaston, North Carolina
Groom's Father's Name: Ransom Williams <--------
Groom's Mother's Name: Jemima Smith
Bride's Father's Name: Jno. F. Beam
Bride's Mother's Name: Francis E. Beam
Groom's Race: White
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race: White
Cherryville Memorial Cemetery
Gaston County, N.C.
Thomas A. Smith August 15, 1873 - November 12, 1950
Elaura K. Beam Smith February 18, 1875 - March 23, 1943 [16 KIDS !!!]
WHO IS TOM SMITH?
Looking for info about Jimima Smith of Lincoln Co. NC.
she would probably be in the 1860 County census. Thomas Agustus Smith b 8/15/1873 d 11/12/1950. He is my grandfather, and had a brother James and a sister Lizzie-birth order unknown. Would almost say her family lived in the northern part of Lincoln Co. Could she be related to the established Smith's who lived in that area? I do know that my grandfather was born in Cleveland Co. NC.
Could there be something forthcoming from some one out there?
1. James Pinkney Smith b. in Lincoln Co NC 15 May 1859
d. 4 April 1941, Buried Hildebran 1st Baptist Ch. Cemetery Hildebran, NC in
an unmarked grave.
2. Elizabeth Tucker b. in Burke Co NC in
1862 d. 11 Jan 1931 in Silver Creek Twp. of Burke Co. Buried with husband
George Washington Abernathy in Hildebran 1st Baptist Ch. Cemetery.
3. Thomas Augustus Smith b. in Cleveland Co.
NC 15 Aug 1873 d. 12Nov 1950 in Burke Co (Broughton Hospital). Buried in
City Memorial Cemetery in Cherryville NC. Thomas A. SMITH is my grandfather.
The outcome of this was a male child given the name Ransom WILLIAMS (born in NC according to the various Census.) Ransom WILLIAMS at age 70 appears in the 1860 NC McDowell County, Turkey Cove Twp. Census as the only occupant of household 261, family 261. I beleive this is on page 170 of the Census. After 1860 there is no further record for him.
This part of McDowell County was formed from Burke County after 1831 because Ransom WILLIAMS had a son Ransom H. WILLIAMS who as born in Burke County in June of 1831.
So What?
All this is to say that Ransom H. WILIAMS fathered my paternal grandfather Thomas Augustus SMITH. Ransom H. and Jemima SMITH my paternal great grandmother never married. So we go by SMITH. My ggrandmother roamed Lincoln, Burke, and Cleveland Counties of North Carolina.
In an effort to look into my WILLIAMS heritage a dna test was done. The result being I have a perfect match with Four (4) SKIDMOREs.
Thomas A Smith's father is Ransom H Williams
This is confirmed by Thomas A Smith's death certificate (above)
He was the son of Ransom Williams (1790 NC- )
Wife is Mary Boiles married 1852 Lincoln NC
See CSA service record below
Death Certificate says mother is Jemima Smith. No father stated.
Buried 1st Bapist Church cemetery in Hildebrand NC
Married to Geo. Wash. Abernathy.
Also buried 1st Bapist Church cemetery in Hildebrand NC.
Father is John M. Tucker
Mother is Jemima Smith
Father is Ransom Williams
shown as Thomas Tucker in 1880
1870 Summers Calwell North Carolina Census
Emily Smith 55 NC 250 140
Jamima Smith 54 NC domestic laborer
adjacent are families of:
Adma Smith 70
Jacob Smith 20
Henry Smith 61
Joab Smith 20
Cornelius Smith 23
George Smith 22
Marion Smith 20
1860 Summers Calwell North Carolina Census
Christian Smith 80 NC f spinster 200 200
[this is Christina Kock (or Cook)]
Jemima 44 NC
Emily 40 NC
Sarah 17 NC
adjacent are:
Adam Smith 59 NC miller [George Adam b 1801 Burke NC]
Jemima 45 NC miller
...
Jemima 2 NC
...
11 children
William Smith 29 NC farmer [son of George Adam above]
wife 1 child
Henry Smith 50 NC farmer 150 200 [Henry Smith, Jr.]
wife 8 children
1850 Smokey Creek Calwell North Carolina Census
Christina Smith 75 NC b. Lincoln NC
Jemima Smith 32 NC b. Burke NC 1818
Emily Smith 28 NC b. Burke NC
Louisa Smith 13 NC b. Burke NC
Sarah Smith 7 NC b. Caldwell NC
1930 North Brook Lincoln North Carolina Census
Thomas Smith 58 NC NC NC age at marraige 19
Laura Smith 55 NC NC NC age at marraiage 16
Craig Smith 22 NC NC NC
Fred Smith 18 NC NC NC
Chad Smith 16 NC NC NC
Jap Smith 13 NC NC NC
Katie Smith 10 NC NC NC
Mallie Smith 8 NC NC NC
Lois Hartman 22 NC NC NC m son-in-law
Velma Hartman 22 NC NC NC f
Herman Hartman 1 9/12 NC NC NC granddaughter
1920 Waco Cleveland North Carolina Census
Thomas A Smith 49 NC NC NC farmer
Elira Smith 45 NC NC NC
Raymond Smith 19 NC NC NC
John Smith 17 NC NC NC
Hunter Smith 15 NC NC NC
Craig Smith 12 NC NC NC
Velma Smith 10 NC NC NC
Fred Smith 8 NC NC NC
Chad Smith 5 NC NC NC
Jas Smith 2 NC NC NC
Katie Sue Smith 0 NC NC NC
1910 Beans Lincoln North Carolina Census
Thomas A Smith 40 NC NC NC farmer
Elira C Smith 35 NC NC NC
11 children 9 surviving
Ila P Smith 16 NC NC NC
Mary F Smith 14 NC NC NC
Milton R Smith 12 NC NC NC
Ramon F Smith 10 NC NC NC
John O Smith 8 NC NC NC
James H Smith 6 NC NC NC
Marvin W Smith 4 NC NC NC
Loch C Smith 2 NC NC NC
Velmer O Smith 1/12 NC NC NC
1900 Besses Chapel Lincoln North Carolina Census
Thomas A Smith 26 NC NC NC farmer
Lora C Smith 36 NC NC NC
4 children 4 surviving
married 9 years
Flor Smith 6 NC NC NC
Mary Smith 4 NC NC NC
Milton Smith 2 NC NC NC
Infant Smith 2/12 NC NC NC
1900 Beam, Lincoln NC
Raves* Williams 68
Mary Williams 67
14 children 11 surviving
Marion Williams 34
Joseph S Williams 24
Laura Williams 23
1880 Cleveland North Carolina Census
Saml. T. Eskridge 36 NC NC NC blacksmith
Ann Graham Eskridge 35 NC NC NC
Thomas Tucker 7 NC NC NC bound boy
[Ray Smith says this is really Thomas A Smith see above]
1880 Burke NC
Ransom Williams 50 NC NC NC farmer
Mary Williams 47 NC NC NC
Harrison Williams 22 NC NC NC
Fannie Williams 19 NC NC NC
Marion Williams 14 NC NC NC
Effie Williams 12 NC NC NC
Flora Williams 8 NC NC NC
Stanley Williams 5 NC NC NC
Laura Williams 3 NC NC NC
1870 Laurel Hill Lincoln North Carolina Census
Ranson H Williams 38 NC farmer 400 100
Mary Williams 38 NC
David Williams 16 NC
Boyd H Williams 15 NC
Ransom H Williams 12 NC
John M Williams 10 NC
Fannie E Williams 9 NC
Franklin A Williams 6 NC
Mamie L Williams 4 NC
Sadie E Williams 2 NC
1860 Laurel Hill Lincoln North Carolina Census
Ransom Williams 26 Burke NC farmer 300 219 [b 1834]
Mary Williams 25 Lincoln NC
[Mary Boyls from David Williams death certificate]
David Williams 7 Lincoln NC
Bayden Williams 5 Lincoln NC
Andrew Williams 4 Lincoln NC
Ransom H Williams 2 Lincoln NC
John Williams 1 Lincoln NC
in McDowell County NC is:
Ransom Williams 70 NC laborer
adj to John Williams 25 NC farmer and family
adj to Peter Williams 37 blind basket maker and family
1850 McDowell Lincoln North Carolina Census
Ransom Williams 60
Sarah Williams 21
Margaret Williams 16
Ransom Williams 17
Taylor/Homesly
North Carolina Marriage Bonds, 1741-1868
Stephen Homesley
Bride: Ester Roberts
Bond_Date: 13 Feb 1809
Bond #: 000073300
Level Info: North Carolina Marriage Bonds, 1741-1868
County: Lincoln
Bondsman: Joseph Homesley
Witness: H Y Webb
1860 Gaston
Esther Homesley 71
Elisa Taylor 48
Susan Neal 16
Roxana Taylor 6
1850 Gaston NC
Stephen Homesley 1
Easter Homesley 70
Elerah Hayles 60 [Taylor]
Catharine F Hayles 38
Francis Hayles 10
John Crouse b. 1765 Cumberland PA m Sarah Mauney
Story about Loyalist Phillip Crouse brother of John Crouse: from: http://www.henry.descendants.us/
The Loyalist Pioneer
Philip Crouse was born, about 1760, in the Province of Zeeland in what is now known as the Netherlands. Zeeland is a coastal province
which can be found on modern maps nestled in the southwest corner of the country, sharing its southern border with Belgium. When
Philip was young, presumably with his parents, he emigrated from Rotterdam to Philadelphia around 1763 to 1768.
Philip as a teenager lived on this farm, probably with his parents. The farm consisted of a house with several farm buildings.
Family members were provided their final resting place in the nearby cemetery.
The settlement of Crouse, North Carolina, was established later around 1840, and was named after Dr. William L. Crouse,
a physician. Dr. Crouse is not a direct descendant of Philip. It is generally believed that Philip had at
least two brothers, John and Peter. John Crouse, the direct ancestor of Dr. William L. Crouse, was a farmer in the
Beaverdam Creek and Indian Creek area. He married Sarah Mauney (pronounced moon-knee) and their descendants for
successive generations thrived in the Gaston-Lincoln County area. The other brother, Peter Crouse, also lived in
the same area and married Anna Carpenter. Some evidence points to his occupation as being a gunsmith. By this time
Philip was firmly established as a British subject and he had a second language English, after Dutch, of course.
In the 1770's this area of North Carolina was populated with people who had basically three political views. There
were Loyalists, also known as Tories, interested in maintaining British citizenship. There were Revolutionaries,
also known as Whigs, interested in forming an independent relationship with Britain, possibly as a loose confederation
of colonies. The third political view was held by a large neutral group that really wanted nothing more than to be
left alone. They were much more interested in establishing homesteads and raising families than the politics of a
revolutionary war. Careful checking of public records of the period show many pioneers' sympathies shifted back and
forth between Tory and Whig allegiance as new situations confronted them. Often families were split with brother
and brother, or father and son, on opposite political sides. Apparently, this is the case with Philip and his
family, or maybe to be more fair, Philip was the politically active one, while the others in the family were
more neutral.
When the first shots were fired at Lexington and Concord, it was not at all certain the Revolution would be a
success, in fact, far from it. Many Colonists eventually chose sides for varied reasons. Some, like coastal merchants,
had valuable economic ties to Britain to protect. Others wanted to stay out of trouble and picked whichever side was
perceived to be winning or more popular in the particular area they lived. Many prominent Colonists originally didn't
want to be separate from Britain and wished to be treated the same as British citizens living in the British Isles.
They actually protested to be treated more like British citizens. Some visionaries saw the advantages of independence
from Britain, especially when the Crown established policies that slipped into disrespect and disregard for the Colonists'
well-being.
Philip chose to be politically active as a British Loyalist. What motivated our young teenage Philip to be a Loyalist
could have been a number of things. Being devout Lutheran, his word was his bond. If at any time he took an oath of loyalty
to the British Crown, as often was required, it would be no small event to break his word. Something certainly not to be taken
lightly. There was another interesting influence that swept into the life of young and restless Philip: the tireless Loyalist
promoters Major Nicholas Welch and Philip's neighbor Colonel John Moore.
Moses Moore (
